I just read some letters to the editor of the local paper, both people who wrote in said how much they were opposed to the court ruling a few weeks ago that god in the pledge is un-constitutional (sp?). These people sited the bible and the founding fathers alot in their letters. (A funny historical side-note is Th. Jefferson wrote his version of the bible to suit his need).

In my view god is just a fictonal character, I really dont care either way if he (it) is used in schools in any way.

Well aside from my views what do y'all think about the whole god in school debate? (this was longer but i didnt want to to be killed before i could read any repies)

I'm Catholic, believe in God, go to church, etc.

We in Canada are further along in eradicating religion from society than the USA. I say hold on to what you have, because without God, society has no real moral anchor. Canada is beginning to see the effects of this now.

Europe is even further along in getting "rid" of God.

Of course, if you don't believe in God, then of course you wouldn't care. It all depends on your perspective.

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i don't see why they persist in having religious education in public schools. if i really wanted to have a religious education, then i'd go to a church run school.

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Here in Canada, we can choose to go to a regular public school or a Catholic public school, and I think some of the other Christian churches have schools, too.

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heres another view

#1 american schools need to quit worrying about god and educate the goddamned kids.

#2 my mom was lutheran my dad baptist, they didnt go to church and didn't care if I did but the wanted me to have the best possible education so they drove me 30 mins to school from my 1st to 8th grade years (hour round trip) and 100 miles round trip from 9-12 grade to a catholic school. I got plenty of religon I'm not catholic, hell I'm not even christian but with or without the fire and brimstone I'm a good person.

just my .02.
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I believe that there is a time and a place for everything. My family is Catholic, but I on the other hand, do not believe in God. I think that if you want to worship, then fine, but do so on your own time. Praying in school is not going to make you any smarter or score any better on the ACT's.

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what about the use of the word god in different aspects such as "In God we Trust". Does this mean just the christen god or is Budduh also included in god of Shiva or Rah. First you need to define "god" before you can eliminate the word. Yes there is a supreme being, be it from another planet or the one desriped in the bible, we came from somewhere.

Ok I'llgive the soap box back now.

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Yes, we did come from somewhere. It's called the Big Bang Theory. But, as I always say, to each their own. Each person is entitled to their own opinions and none of us will really know which is right until we have died.....And then, unfortunately, we will not be able to relay the information back to those still alive *LOL*

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there are those who do not believe in a supreme power. Some believe in multiple aspects to create a whole and others believe it (to quote bloom county) just happened. there are pan theistic religons who see an aspect of their worship in every blade of grass every tree, animal, person..... there are some that strive to see an aspect of their worship in only people. one thing I have found to be the biggest problem in religons is boundaries. everyone is so concerned with labling themselves as good and others with bad(it seems to me, not everyone everywhere is like this I live in the bible belt so it may be an extreme position) that they seem to forget that it's not about judging others but rather your own actions....... *Kyttn runs to cringe in the corner*

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Yeah we should keep HIM, HE was there when i was still in school
NO HE SHOULDN"T ..........wait.... who said the supreme power has to be male? *wink* joke.

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depends on what they are teaching most of the
roman catholic world conseders me evil the anti-
gay teaching of some church schools are the same
as the b.n.p and k.k.k and other new facists groupes
we should teach the every man is your brother and
every woman a sister parts of all religions

The big bang theory has nothing to do with whether or not there is a God. I believe in both.

Who set off the big bang? What was here before it? Why did it explode? Nothing science can say will ever prove or disprove God, because if there is a God, then he created science, the physical rules of the universe, the big bang, and everything else.

If there is no God, then those things happened some other way. Science is always neutral. The only way science is involved is when some religions (not Catholics) say that the Earth was created 6000 years ago. Wrong.

The Bible says everything was created in 6 days, but these are God's days. There wasn't even a sun for the first 3 "days", so how could they be days? 1 day to God might be a billion years. Genesis is symbolic.

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To begin; god should be removed from those statements. Not because it's offensive, because it is not tradition. The American government in the 1950s came to this conclusion:

Communism = bad
Communism = atheism
Atheism = bad

And so they attempted to destroy any type of atheistic belief in Americans. They have succeeded largely.


"The big bang theory has nothing to do with whether or not there is a God. I believe in both."

Then you aren't a catholic or a christian. I find it disturbing that so many people can call themselves christians when they believe they ahve the authority to decide which parts of the bible are literal and which are metaphorical.


"We in Canada are further along in eradicating religion from society than the USA. I say hold on to what you have, because without God, society has no real moral anchor. Canada is beginning to see the effects of this now."

I too am Canadian. To say that without God society has no moral anchor is pathetic for two reasons.
1) moral anchor is not necessary. It is only necessary for people who wish to impose their views on otehrs or people who don't like other views
2) laws should NEVER have anything to do with morals. A law should be passed based on whether or not it benefits society. Not whether god says so or not.

What affects are you speaking of? That we're liberal? That we allow freedoms?

I believe that religions should be taught at school (note the plural) So that the student has some knowledge of the beliefs of others.

I dont think that god should be force fed to children and that they be pushed into accepting a faith before they are old enough to decide for themselves.
That is not 9 or 10 years old.

Is there a god or supreme being? damned if I know, it cannot be proved but is a matter of personal faith. We all have our own moral standards. The hypocrasy of some churches bewilders me. Look at the celibacy of priests and the sexual predation by some clergy. And as Axe said, he is pronounced evil because he has a same sex preference in his private life. I think that Axe is as much entitled to be loved and respected as anyone else regardless of sexual leanings. it goes against a commandment, love thy neighbour anyway.